On the hook in Afghanistan for at least another decade

On the hook in Afghanistan for at least another decade

Although there may not be any official word about this until next month, Monday’s story in the New York Times is probably as good as an announcement: The U.S. is locked into Afghanistan for at least another 10 years.

After Kabul takes responsibility for the war next year, Washington will continue to fund, train and assist the Afghan National Security Forces as a “supportive ally,” the Times reported, though there are few details yet beyond that basic commitment. The American and NATO officials quoted (anonymously) in the story painted it as a victory: It’ll send a message to the Afghans that they’re not being abandoned; tell the Taliban it can’t wait out the international coalition; and signal Iran and Pakistan that the U.S. is not going to just pick up its marbles and go home — again.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has said before that he needed the West to cough up about $4 billion per year under the 10-year construct — much of it will probably come from U.S. taxpayers. But after a war that has cost more than $8 billion per month, that level of funding would be a bargain at twice the price. And it would finally answer the question that no Bush or Obama administration official was ever able to: How will the Afghans afford their enormous new army after the U.S. and its allies withdraw?  (At least it’ll let the government give the answer everyone already knew: They won’t.)


The new agreement with Afghanistan could be music to the ears of key Washington imperialists — it could make it easier for the U.S. to maintain a strategic regional presence of the kind it gave up in Iraq, affording convenient bases for American airpower and special operators.

The devil, naturally, will be in the details:

Afghanistan’s neighbors have spent years charging confiscatory rates to let the U.S. supply its forces there, so depending on the number of Americans who remain, the long-term deal may not be much of a bargain after all. Not only must the U.S. pay off everybody who gets a taste of the logistics network, but it will probably have to keep ready combat forces nearby just in case things go very bad in Afghanistan.

Which leads to the question: What tripwires would bring about American troops’ involvement in potential flare-ups down the road? The Afghan forces must have at least the implied backing of American troops to make them a credible force. But American soldiers can’t rush in like the cavalry to save the Afghans every time they get into a gunfight. Striking that balance will be one of the most important, and possibly most difficult, diplomatic jobs for the long-term transition.

On top of all the military and strategic implications for Afghanistan, the domestic fallout of Monday’s deal also will be interesting to watch. President Obama has largely staked his political fortunes on promises to get the U.S. out of Iraq and Afghanistan — Iraq is done, and the Afghanistan withdrawal is set up so that thousands of U.S. troops are home by Election Day. Committing the country to support Afghanistan for another 10 years could undercut that messaging, especially if voters don’t want to get into the weeds about what constitutes a big combat presence vs. “support” for the ANSF.

Even before the election, Monday’s story could wave another red flag in front of certain Republican bulls in Congress, whose blood is already up over perceived slights by the Obama administration. A few members worked themselves into a lather about not having been sufficiently consulted over Libya; or  about the need for “international permission” for U.S. action in Syria; and now the executive branch could once again appear to be acting on its own. Some lawmakers want Americans out of Afghanistan yesterday. Some of them want to stay there for 50 years, not 10. If Congress doesn’t feel like it was part of this agreement, look for another round of Libya-style outrage hearings.

In the final analysis, Washington had no good choices on Afghanistan. The White House probably hopes its agreement will give enough distance that most American troops can come home and force the Afghans to step up, as planned, but also keep Afghanistan close enough that it doesn’t again offer a vacuum to be filled by terrorists. So after more than 10 years, all that’s certain is that the next 10 years in Afghanistan will be critical.

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I’d say that we need special operations forces there more than anything.

“In the final analysis, Washington had no good choices on Afghanistan.”

This is too true. I think this is definitely one of the least bad choices we have as an option.

I have serious doubta about the Afghan police/military capability to keep the Taliban and AQ out of their country. How will they avoid becoming like Pakistan and the ISI?

I’d say we need these damned death squads out of there ASAP.
You don’t imagine how much hate they sow among the population, which means more enemy fighters.

Same political crap like Vietnam. We keep supporting a failed government under Karzi who supports the enemy as well and we spend billion we dont have in country not worth a dollar to nuke it. Give me a break.

Afghanistan is is a strategic sinkhole at the end of an impossible supply line that provides no strategic advantages for US power projection. This is precisely why Obama likes keeping as much of the military there as possible. The other advantage it offers is a continuing drain on funding for mission critical assets.

I don’t know why we were still there. OBL is already dead and killed by the special forces. Aren’t we there because of OBL? It is also raising the national dept on the ceiling.

Really? I mean really, you need this explained?

We went to Afghanistan because of 911. OBL was the head of AQ. He didn’t personally plan, train or resource that crew of thugs. KSM did and we captured him almost a decade ago. Did AQ stop planning and trying to conduct attacks on the homeland? NO! Is there still a threat to the nation? Yep. Will it be greater if AQ can return to Afghanistan and make it a center of activity? Yep.

Here’s your sign…

Why were the posts asking about the author’s use of the term “Washington imperialists” deleted?

Also what of my comments about the bias demonstrated by calling out “Republican bulls” whom might be unhappy with pres over reach with this story but then ignoring its mostly Democrats that want us out of Afghanistan NOW?. Then the article credits Obama with getting out of Iraq (it was a Bush agreement) then uses the uses the amorphous “it” when referring to the Obama’s failure to come to an agreement with Iraq after our withdrawl ?

No defamation, curses or offensive language or is pointing out bias offensive?

We reign in Central Asia while the Chinese take the world.

Let me get this straight. We’re going to pay $6 billion a year (the real estimate) to pay for 350,000 Afghan security and police while we cut our own forces? REALLY? Don’t think so. The U.S. is broke. Let’s start with the State Department.

But I have another idea. To finance any more of this foreign adventure, why don’t we just start exploiting their natural resources like the British and Dutch did all over the world to support their national economies and military forces? At least THAT would be honest! We don’t send money or military for training, just send them our mining companies.

Not to be too glib about this — the price tag is a bit high, our confidence in the Afghans is, well, a bit low, and there is always the possibility of having to bail them out. But the advantages of lowering our committed forces would, at least in my military mind, seem to outweigh the disadvantages. Umm, perhaps that is overstated, but this arrangement looks something like a win. I get really tired of posters like this guy who seem to want to lose, want to lose as quickly as possible, who want to lose at all costs — who in fact will not compromise with victory in their drive for total defeat. Why is this ? Who wants this ?

Unless we’ve entered into some kind of cutie pie deal with the south indians to keep the pak ratz guessing (and continue killing us and not them) or provide security for Chinese mining interests we are going to be out of there, lock, stock and barrel, in the next thirty six months. This ought to be good.

So the other day I am at the LZ which is on the edge of Camp Thunder, home of the ANA 203rd Thunder Corps, just outside Gardez, Paktya Province. I saw some papers blowing around so I decided to clean up a bit. What were they? Pages from a “training manual” for the soldiers, which was basically reading comprehension and math addition and subtraction on an elementary school level.
Outside the cities, there is one paved road, no infrastructure, no electricity, no water. The people live in dirt houses in barren and inhospitable conditions. The illiteracy rate is around 70%. There are few schools, no jobs, and little hope. As just stated by wu ming, all we have done is spend over $1 trillion to make the country safer for the Chinese. So for this my children, grandchildren, and so on get to pay for this (and Iraq). For what?

Washington should of checked the history books. The Russians bailed out of their Vietnam and we had no business making it ours. This pure BS with no value or gain for us.

So — we will continue to pour money into a corrupt government that does little or nothing for its people.

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