Defense acquisitions are broken and no one cares

Defense acquisitions are broken and no one cares

The Washington Post’s Walter Pincus breathed a heavy sigh in print this week with a column that outlined the perfect absurdity of the military-industrial-congressional complex.

It compared the findings of President Reagan’s blue ribbon panel with the results of an April report by the Defense Business Board, which were almost interchangeable.

Problem is, no one cares. Pincus’ frustration comes through in every word:


What can be more boring than reading about yet another set of recommendations for fixing a system that over the past decade has seen the Defense Department flooded with funds. It’s been so flush that it could walk away from $50 billion worth of “weapons that either did not work or were overtaken by new requirements given the average 15-to-18 year development cycle,” according to the [recent] Punaro task force report.

And — yawn — the overruns are hardly over. This is in spite of the need to reduce defense spending. More yawn-inducing reality: The Government Accountability Office recently reported current major weapons systems will show a cost growth of $135 billion before they are fully integrated into the system.

Boring and frustrating. It was time to do something 26 years ago. The only major lasting memorial to the Packard Commission is its recommendation for an undersecretary of defense for acquisition. The Pentagon has had one since that time, but the problems remain.

“Today there is no rational system whereby the Executive Branch and the Congress reach coherent and enduring agreement on national military strategy, the forces to carry it out, and the funding that should be provided — in light of the overall economy and competing claims on national resources.”

Nope. Continues Pincus:

The Punaro Task Force proposed that requirements, acquisition and budgeting be merged with a common documentation throughout. It also recommended requirements be frozen, after cost, schedule and technical tradeoffs have been made. Industry is to be brought early into the process, and the current wall between military requirements and civilian-controlled acquisition should be removed. Service chiefs should be involved throughout the process.

Still awake? We all should be — and particularly Congress.

“Congress should work to recodify all federal statutes governing procurement into a single government-wide procurement statute … aim[ed] not only at consolidation, but more importantly at simplification and consistency.”

That’s the Packard Commission from 26 years ago. It’s time to pay attention.

Very important stuff, but don’t hold your breath. The public has been snoozing through decade upon decade of Pentagon waste; the last person to get a national profile tackling it was Missouri Sen. Harry S. Truman, who made the cover of Time. As a mass communications issue, audiences respond to headlines that say “Pentagon program busts budget” the way they might to “Water wet, scientists conclude,” or “Sun likely to rise tomorrow, astronomers predict.” Defense spending is a vital national issue, but after so many years of bad stories, the public is numb.

Congress has no incentive to “fix” it. Lawmakers accept millions of dollars in contributions from defense contractors — which is perfectly legal — and they’re eager to protect factories, bases or shipyards in their districts — which is their job. Vendors — which are for-profit companies out to maximize their return for investors — exploit this masterfully. Lockheed Martin Tweeted this week, for example, that for a time during F-22 production, the jet’s components were made in 46 states. You’ve read here about the broad national profile of the F-35 Lightning II that continues today. When Huntington-Ingalls Industries rallies members of its “aircraft carrier industrial base,” it brings in vendors from places such as Cleveland, to show lawmakers outside Virginia or coastal districts why they have an interest. And on and on.

The big defense contractors are filled with patriotic people who take pride in knowing that they’re helping protect the United States, but the bottom line is giant corporations are giant corporations, and they act as such. Lockheed’s goal is to make money. Should we really expect its leaders to speak up and say, “No, Mr. Secretary, we refuse to accept this enormous contract — it’s too risky  to develop the airplane at the same time as we’re putting it into production.” Should we expect the shipbuilder to say, “Y’know what, admiral, let me tell you up front, we really did a terrible job building this new amphibious transport — we’ll bear all the costs and inconvenience of putting it into spec to save you years of embarrassment, lots of rework for your sailors and millions of taxpayer dollars.”

So if there is some hope for repairing the way the U.S. arms itself, it may have to come from within the Building — though even that is a tall order. Still, today’s generation of service chiefs and acquisitions leaders say they get it. At very least, they want a clean break; we’ve heard some of the Army’s key weapons-buyers saying explicitly: The past is gone; give us a chance to do better. Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert says “good enough” has got to be good enough. Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz may have put it most memorably when he told an industry audience, “Don’t blow smoke up my ass.”

Unfortunately, although today’s DoD may be through with the past, the past sure ain’t through with it. The same generals and admirals who talk “discipline” and “appetite suppressants” must live with a $400 billion, behind-schedule F-35; a class of ships dependent on modular equipment that doesn’t yet exist; tankers and bombers projected to go into production at the same time; and a lot more expensive inheritance.  If you could stop time, zero everything out, write all your regs from scratch and restart the clock, things might be different. But we are where we are.

The defense acquisitions world is the intersection of politics and capitalism, and it reflects the strengths and weaknesses of each. It saved thousands of lives with the Mine Resistant, Ambush-Protected vehicles, but it needed years and three agonizing attempts to get the Air Force a new fleet of tankers. If DoD officials stick to the buzzwords and commitments they’ve adopted today while staring down the barrel of reduced budget growth, the process could get better. Still, as long as human beings and their institutions remain imperfect, the Iron Triangle will too.

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What do you mean no one cares? I care! I wrote and published a paper online that explains why the USN and USMC shouldn’t buy the F-35: http://​www​.scribd​.com/​d​o​c​/​8​8​9​4​6​6​6​0​/​W​h​y​-​t​h​e​-​U​S​N​-an

The right people are making money, Check!
The fiscal consequences are outside the typical person’s frame of reference, Check!
The physical consequences don’t matter because the percentage of Americans either serving or knowing someone who served is the smallest in generations, Check!

So yeah, that sounds like a blueprint for an out of control sector of the economy. So if something doesn’t work and kills a couple people, well that’s worth a a few Facebook Recommendations. If businesses consistently under deliver, that’s worth a Tweet. If 2 and 3 stars retire and find work on K Street, well that is worth a few complaints around a bar. But no one really does anything real to affect change. Or they fallback on talking points. Its called apathy and complacency brought about by a pretty damn good standard of living.

Look, if you people didn’t want us (defense contractors) to screw you, then you wouldn’t pay us extra to do just that. It’s not f’ing rocket science. Fix it or quit your damn whining! It’s getting old.

SECDEF blamed Boyd for this ’83 article: http://web.archive.org/web/**********0523/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,953733,00.html and tried to have him banned from the Pentagon … however Boyd had some congressional cover. Since then they appear to all have gone over to the dark side … accounting for the more strident comments about MICC (instead of simply MIC).

The politicians are the only ones who have the authority to fix this problem. There is no need to restudy and reorganize “the system.” We should vote out every politician that gets us deeper in debt and creates Constitutional crises to serve narrow political agendas and do not express an interest and achieve results in addressing the acquisition problem.

part of the wayback machine URL turned into asterisks … almost looks like automated card processing software leaving the trailing four digits .… just the digits turned into asterisks 2007032017

Good job on that paper — I wish you much success in your future career. Keep on asking tough questions, doing the research, proposing solutions, and continually improving your analysis. You have great potential to do amazing things!

can you please repaste the link?

Here it is, but you have to be a Time Magazine subscriber…:-(
http://​www​.time​.com/​t​i​m​e​/​m​a​g​a​z​i​n​e​/​a​r​t​i​c​l​e​/​0​,​9​171,…

sorry that link doesn’t work for me. darnit I am interested in reading that

’83 article gone behind paywall but lives free at wayback machine: http://web.archive.org/web/20070320170523/http://

Boyd would tell story about taking 18months preparing for the article … making sure the person on the magazine cover had permission in writing to release every detail. When SECDEF couldn’t get that individual thrown in jail, he went after Boyd. Supposedly afterwards Pentagon came up with new document classification “NO-SPIN” … unclassified, but not to be given to Spinney.

Yeah Dude, that was a really good read.

2nd time now seems to be fixed … if you get the wayback machine welcome screen … hit the “Impatient!” on the right-hand side.

pages 3&8 appear to not be at the wayback machine & tries to take you to the original website

But they’ll just keep buying you things with your own tax dollars and remind you how much they’re the cool uncle in the family.

Its sad that it takes this long to realize the government is broken on how it dose business not just for the DoD but as a whole. Biggest broken minded approach is the last few months the DOD instead of saving money for cuts there taking is now gone back to business ad usual and make more program that are crap the DOD doesn’t need AAS for instance.

Spinney/Boyd/Time article was 30yrs ago, things have just gotten worse. CBO had report that last decade, congress decreased tax revenues by $6T and increased spending by $6T for $12T budget gap (compared to baseline which had surpluses eliminating all federal debt by 2010) … really starting after congress allowed fiscal responsibility act to expire in 2002. Over $2T was DOD/MIC … $1+T for wars and $1+T went where? http://​www​.cdi​.org/​p​r​o​g​r​a​m​/​d​o​c​u​m​e​n​t​.​c​f​m​?​d​o​c​u​m​e​n​t​i​d​=​4​623 . In the middle of last decade, the comptroller general would include in speeches that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic (because of how they were savaging the budget).

Thanks, guys. I’ve been trying to find a way to get more people that are interested in defense news to read it. However, I don’t know where else to go other than posting it online and sharing it on articles. Any suggestions?

Owl…I just read the paper. A couple of comments; be very careful when comparing flying hour costs of production aircraft with years of historical data and new aircraft still in the test phase. I’m not saying your general premise is wrong, I’m just saying it’s not really an apple-to-apples comparison. I give you credit for not basing your argument on cost alone, since cost is only one of several factors. I do think you show some bias when discussing the enemy; I think you give way to much credit to the Libyan IADS and not nearly enough to the Chinese, not to mention their stealth aircraft production. Lastly, what timeframe is your paper looking at? Are you talking about bridging a gap with Super Hornets or buying them for the long haul? How many years down the road can that aircraft remain survivable, when some folks say it might not be survivable in the near term? I think your paper is a good representation of the 4.5 gen vs 5th gen argument. Unfortunately, the true differences could never be explored in a unclassified paper.

The acquisition types, both contracators and their general, admiral and politician enablers, need to be brought in line. Having watched this recurring fiasco for nearly 30 years (I was not a “decision maker”), the only way to bring sensibility back to the process is just to cut the damn budget! True in this instance, less is more. Less money may produce better decisions, less complicated, more reliable, and useful weapons. Like a combat fighter than can go up four out of five days (with maintenance on the fifth) and not the other way around. Step One: Every program manager (both government and contractors) and their Pentagon acquisition sponsors who have permitted more than 10 percent cost growth in their programs are hereby fired.

Just after the calendar flipped from 1990’s into 2000’s, they started making us all take DAU courses studying so much Acquisition Professional stuff, most of which was just a giant waste of time to the GS-12,13 level workers in NAVSEA. So many months wasted studying to be an “AP” and then we all watch during this past decade where Congree and Navy leadership either completely ignore this massively complex Acquisition Professional DAU training reqmts, or at least token/fudge so many of the milestones, in order to keep their pet projects ongoing. So, besides being a waste of massive amounts of office time (on and off for 2 to 3 years of DAU courses), it has been hypocritical to watch Navy and Congressional leader skirt around major parts of what DAWAI forced us to learn. Lots of money, time spent for 10 years of DAU/DAWAI. And the Navy acquistion is certainly much, much worse in 2012 than it was back in 2001 when all this frustrating AP training began. Time for a change, since our entire country is fiscally going down the tubes. Please just bite the bullet and eliminate DAU/DAWAI for all the masses of Navsea workers, especially those who do not work in WASHINGTON DC. At least make DAU AP optional just for future hard chargers, and not expose Navsea masses to such hypocracy by making everyone (civil service, subcontractors and even some active duty) take all these acquisition training reqmts which are subsequently ignored or just glossed over by our Washington DC so-called leaders.

Oh those greedy contractors! Sure, we offered them a profit incentive to screw us, but we didn’t know they’d take the money. Oh woe is us.

What the hell, people, does someone have to hit you over the head with a rock before you can figure out what’s going on here?

The USA — while getting some of the most advanced equipment in the world — also gets the LOUSIEST bang for taxpayer dollar than any other nation on earth. And believe me, I CARE.

I don’t think the “nobody cares” part was aimed at anyone who reads this website but how many citizens ever read anything about government acquisition? I don’t have any facts but from the people I’ve talked to it’s a very small number.

Yep, the politicians in Congress who decide where the money gets spent are the people responsible for this mess. But then they’re also the government sector that is out of control.

The place to really start with your “less is more” plan is on military commitments, deployments and wars. The time is now to say no to any kind of involvement in Syria. Let the Arabs handle their own problem child.

The best part of the article is “there is no rational system whereby the Executive Branch and the Congress reach coherent and enduring agreement on national military strategy, the forces to carry it out, and the funding that should be provided.”

Just as much was wasted requiring low level contractors to go similar efforts.

The problem isn’t at the worker level as the vast majority of GS, military and contractors are just trying to do a good job and get things done. The problem is at the politician level, specifically Congress.

There is also spreading “Success of Failure” culture where the large system integrators, gov. contractors, and beltway bandits realize that they make more money off series of failures (less money left on the table)
http://​www​.govexec​.com/​m​a​n​a​g​e​m​e​n​t​/​m​a​n​a​g​e​m​e​n​t​-​m​att

Cost overruns for weapons, heck that’s just a drop in the bucket compared to $3 triilion in national debt run up by Obama which is in reality, is closer to $12 trillion with everything added up.

The Arabs won’t do anything but talk and they don’t have the forces or capabilities to do anything anyway.

try to get it published in a journal, like Defense AT&L (http://​www​.dau​.mil/​p​u​b​s​c​a​t​s​/​P​a​g​e​s​/​D​e​f​e​n​s​e​A​t​l​.​a​spx) send an email to the journalists/bloggers directly like Philip Ewing and get their feedback… make a youtube video.. just be aware that high visibility/publicity & a successful military career do not usually make for a good combination…

actually even trusting an apples to apples comparison can be dangerously misleading. granny smith are very different than red delicious. throw in geographic differences, organic vs non-organic, various pesticides used, & once trusted & valid claims and the methods used to support them weaken further. In BC times Socrates & Plato taught us that wisdom was “knowing that you know nothing”. In the 19th century David Hume taught us about the problem of induction, calling into question all empirical claims based on the scientific method & its dependency on observed data. In the 40’s von Neuman, Ulam, et al, gave us the Monte Carlo Simulation method, without even having the luxury of availability of computers, to help us in measuring uncertainty in mathematical models.

And here we are in 2012, with leaders who repeat the same mistakes over and over again, trusting in LSS, EVM, Agile methodologies, and Red Yellow Green Risk Management methods. Until the American public votes out every politician who will not exert their Constitutional authority to lead the DoD and not fire every General officer that does not know and/or intentionally exposes the American taxpayer to obscene cost risk, don’t expect change.

It’s bigger than that — we’ve become a “too big to fail” country which is why we bailed out big banks and big auto makers.

And.….?

Syria just isn’t our problem.

For a really good look at “too-big-to-fail” try Stiglitz: http://​www​.amazon​.com/​F​r​e​e​f​a​l​l​-​A​m​e​r​i​c​a​-​M​a​r​k​e​t​s​-​S​i​n​k​i​n​g​-​e​b​o​o​k​/​d​p​/​B​0​0​3​5​Y​D​M​9E/ … also two years ago there was several articles about the “too-big-to-fail” doing money laundering for drug cartels … which also made them “too-big-to-jail”. There was early 80s article calling for 100% unearned profit tax on auto industry. The scenario was that the import quotas reduced competition to give them significant increased profits which they were suppose to use to completely remake themselves. Instead they just pocketed the profits and continued business as usual. In 1990, the industry had C4 task force to look at completely remaking themselves (they were planning on heavily leveraging technology, so representatives from major technology vendors were invited). They could accurately describe the competition and changes that needed to be made … but major stakeholders again continued business as usual.

In 1985? Toshiba had a contract to build stealth propellers for our subs. They sold the technology to the Russians. Congress was outraged, and was putting together a bill to ban Toshiba from doing business in the USA. Toshiba gave Clark Clifford, a well conected Democratic fixer 3 million dollars to spread around. The whole business was forgotten. Lesson? It only took 3 million dollars to buy congress, with inflation, maybe it take 10 million today. A Toshiba ex was asked about it. He said Warshington is just as crooked as Jakarta,
internationly known as the most currupt of government in the world at that time.

Black Owl — nice work. Your paper is excellent. I am a retired Infantry Officer was a frequent user of CAS on and near the DMZ in Vietnam. Your arguments seem logical and reasonable. In my view, more is better and bigger ordinance loads are much better. I realize stealth is important but our potential enemies seem adept at developing relative cheap counter measures. I suspect constant improvements to radar and missile technologies eventually will trump grossly expensive steal technology unless we develop science fiction cloaking devices. Our potential enemies adhere to Stalin’s statement that “quantity has a quality of its own.” Quantity combined with solid capability and good training seem the most reasonable means of retaining sufficient combat power to dominate our potential enemies. Keep up the fire.

As I recall, President Eisenhower TOLD everyone to beware of the military-industrial complex. He said this way back in the 1950’s. Sadly, our congressional leaders, either party; still have not listened to his warning. Now wouldn’t a reasonable person actually believe and understand that a man who was a 5 star General; commanded the largest military forces in human history; became President of the United States; might actually KNOW what he was talking about? It seems all presidents and congresses since his time have NOT listened to his words of warning. Maybe it is time they got a wake up call, by being voted out of office (both parties)??

Several recent claims that Eisenhower originally was going to say Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex … but shortened it at the last minute … I’ve used MICC example for FRCC .. Financial-Regulatory-Congress Complex .. and PRCC .. Pharmaceutical-Regulatory-Congressional Complex.

One of the analysis of problems with F35 was that it was purposefully structured to spread work around to large number of different congressional districts to make it cancel proof. A side-effect was that it also greatly increased problems involved with integrating all the different pieces from all over.

It is always so easy on paper. Strike a baseline, maintain the baseline, with assiduous deployment of management reserve to deal with risks as they emerge, Problem: if you really cannot afford to field the system in the first place, why are you bothering to develop it ? You needed 18 years to get it out the door ? Really ? Or did you need 18 years to scrape up the money — at increasingly unfavorable unit costs — to get it over the line ? Maybe this time, you can be honest with yourself and admit you were penny-wise and pound foolish to begin with, and that manufacturing economies of scale do not work in your favor when you are constantly reducing budgets and force structure. Is there a more efficient level at which you could operate ? Sure thing — if you could reexpand the force to Cold War levels ? Good luck with that.

Lenin said “quantity has a quality all its own” Also, without some measure of stealth, the CAS aircraft will be blown out of the sky long before they drop their payloads. We won’t be fighting jihadis with AK-47s and mortars forever.

The Army Acquisition Study of two years ago revealed that over 40% of all Army acquisition funds for the past 20 years went into systems that never entered volume production. The study is only one of many among all of the services. Like Pincus, I’ve seen a lot of others during 45 years service in the Air Force and Aerospace industry.

It can certainly be argued that “The Pentagon” bureaucracy needs to be fixed. But serving Generals and their mid level staffs must also own their part of the problem. The JROC requirements process is broken, being unconstrained by any hint of technology reality. If we want systems fast, cheap and in numbers, then we must limit military “requirements” (and CONOPs!) to those supported by technology already proven in the field. That limit must be imposed at Acquisition Milestone A (program definition), not Milestone B (concept development and test) — before spending grows large enough to tip Congressional rice bowls.

Advanced technology and requirements overreach are not our friends. And the military — not civilian bureaucrats or greedy contractors — is responsible for both. If the requirement isn’t right, then the acquisition never will be.

Sad state of affairs when congress sells out the people of this country to line their own pockets. I have seen so many projects that never finish on time and have huge cost overruns. The whole system is a sad joke. The contractors are making huge sums of money, the politicians are making money and the people of this country are getting the shaft.

Contractor delivers weapons system. Does not meet rwequirements. DoD pays contractor again to make it meet requirements it was already supposed to meet. New Requirements, pay massive to contractor to fail to meet, pay to fix, and so on. Its the contracting. All teh risk is on teh government on our contracts. Force defense contractors to shoulder some of the risk and then we can get things right.

We need a digital revolution to the world’s biggest bureaucracy, the Department of Defense.

There is a corrosive culture that plagues the Pentagon with endless infighting within its five rings leading to a massive waste of resources, time, and opportunities. The massive bureaucracy and rigid command and control organizational structures crushes agility and innovation. While the DOD pioneered the Internet 40 years ago with the development of ARPANET, the average teenager today leverages the web more effectively than most Pentagon staffs.

We need to embrace concepts from thought leaders like Don Tapscott whose latest book Macrowikinomics inspires a new vision for the world. The Pentagon must transition from our Industrial Age thinking and hierarchical organizational designs to a new set of bottom-up institutions that are being built on principles such as openness, collaboration, and the sharing of data and intellectual property. We must harness the Web to network human minds and achieve powerful new effective and efficient solutions.

I invite you to collaborate on these subjects and more at http://​digitalpentagon​.com

Complimenting spreading “Success Of Failure” culture (referenced upthread) is Spinney’s theme on “Perpetual War”:
http://​chuckspinney​.blogspot​.com/​p​/​d​o​m​e​s​t​i​c​-​r​o​ots
references his article here:
http://​www​.challengemagazine​.com/​e​x​t​r​a​/​0​5​4​_​0​6​9​.pd

The internal network originated at the science center and was larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until late ’85 or early ’86. The arpanet had significant centralized operational design and implementation that was inhibiting its growth and big change was to internetworking protocol (tcp/ip) on 1jan83 (significantly contributing to its overtaking size of the internal network a couple years later).

The technology basis for the modern internet is tcp/ip; the operational basis for the modern internet was NSFNET backbone; and the business basis for the modern internet was CIX. Some past email about working with participants on what would become NSFNET backbone. When NSFNET backbone RFP was released, internal politics prevented us from bidding; the director of NSF tried to help by writing a letter to the corporation (he had comments like what we already had running was at least five years ahead of all RFP responsess), but that just aggrevated the internal politics. some old NSFNET related email from the period:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

Reference to scientific center co-worker (responsible for the internal network) talking to the arpanet people about internet design (“the genius who invented the design for the Internet”):
http://​iheartthisapp​.com/​c​o​o​l​-​t​o​-​b​e​-​c​l​e​v​e​r​-​e​d​son–

others at the science center were responsible for inventing GML in 1969. A decade later, GML morphs into ISO standard SGML. After another decade, SGML morphs into HTML at CERN
http://​infomesh​.net/​h​t​m​l​/​h​i​s​t​o​r​y​/​e​a​rly
and first webserver outside europe was on the SLAC (virutal-machine based) VM370 system
http://​www​.slac​.stanford​.edu/​h​i​s​t​o​r​y​/​e​a​r​l​y​w​e​b​/​his

reference to invention of virtual machine systems at the science center in the 60s (from presentation at 1982 SEAS meeting):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt

Remember the FEDS (including DOD) in the late 80s had mandate to eliminate the internet and tcp/ip and move to OSI (GOSIP)

The Congress has not produced a budget since 2009.

Why would anyone in government care about their own budgets? As always it is about leadership or in this case the lack of leadership. Both parties. Only before the Democrats took over this last time, they would produce a budget. Not anymore.

The House passed it’s budget, but nothing but obstruction in the Senate.

Go figure.

There are people who care, those who quietly work every day to responsibly monitor the use of the American taxpayers dollar. The problem is they are few and far between…

You are exactly right! Check! To your surprise, CHECK! I liked the way that guy put it… hide and watch it get fixed..

Wrong… wrong… wrong… it is the government employees monitoring the performance of the contractors… politicians are too busy.… doing .… politician things.… to do the supervision needed…

I like, I like, I like!!! Where did this thinking government employee come from… Of course, it would be our luck he is now retired…

I think it is more a vast majority are just trying to get things done, and it is such a difficult process, and people sign off on things without really reading the fine print… and without asking the tough questions…

I had never heard that phrase, of course, I don’t get out much, but whoever came up with it does. Very well said. You aren’t by any chance interested in running for some office are you?

I BEG TO DIFFER… REMEMBER 9/11.… that wasn’t talk, and by the way, it isn’t “Arabs” we have to worry about, its TERRORISTS… T.E.R.R.LO.R.I.S.T.S.

Dare we think now there are two thinking government employees, and this one is really smart… That is as succinct a solution as I have ever come across. Of course it all hinges on the personal integrity of leadership, of their willingness to SERVE, not to RULE… The Department of Defense attracts those who love power, and the wielding of the same.

Contracts “tries” to do the right thing, but if judges overrule protests/claims and Prog /Mgnt override you every time, you only do what you can do. Attempting to stop accepting program overruns, results in contracts being a rule follower and not a team player and holding up the program.

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