Gridlock

Gridlock

Like a novice driver ruining a manual transmission, Washington ground its gears to pieces this week, almost guaranteeing no real action on the major questions of the day until at least after the elections.

The House Armed Services Committee passed an authorization bill that adds billions to the Defense Department’s spending request from earlier this year, as well as keeps Navy ships, Air Force aircraft, and backs a new East Coast missile defense site, among many other things. Secretary Panetta and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dempsey said Thursday that they oppose it, pointing out that Congress itself last year mandated that DoD must take its medicine as part of the effort to reduce the U.S. deficit.

“I understand Congress has the right to question our decisions and make changes, but Congress also has a responsibility to make sure we protect a strong national defense,” Panetta said. “The bottom line is we cannot cut a half a trillion dollars from the defense budget and not cause some pain.”


And that’s only the $487 some-odd billion in reduced spending growth that DoD had to accept upfront, not the $500 billion guillotine still poised over the Beltway. (More on that in a moment.) So the House’s plan, Panetta said, “is not balanced, it’s not fair and ultimately the Senate isn’t going to accept it either. All we’re going to head for now is more gridlock and that’s what bothers me.”

Just like last year, Washington appears headed for another crisis of process, in which dysfunctional or non-functional institutions’ inability to do anything could have dramatic ripple effects in the wider world. Last year, the U.S. lost its AAA credit rating for the first time. This year the impact may be smaller, but for the military-industrial-congressional complex, no less significant: The more it looks like the future of the national defense budget will come down to a photo finish in the closing hours of December’s lame duck session, the worse it could get in the interim.

The big defense contractors are threatening layoffs even before sequestration hits. The vice chiefs of the services renewed their worries about it for Senate lawmakers Thursday, warning that the Air Force could lose its ability to buy stealth aircraft and the Navy could lose key shipbuilding vendors forever. Army Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Lloyd Austin warned sequestration would mean  an additional 100,000 troops gone, over and above the 80,000 the service now plans to draw down. Of those additional 100,000, some 50,000 would be National Guardsmen and Reservists, he warned, hoping to tap the muscle the states have flexed this year.

The vice chiefs went on record, in response to questions from New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte, as saying that they’d like Congress to resolve sequestration before December, though that and a token will get you uptown. No matter how the House acts, a racing tortoise could lap the Senate in the best of times, and this year with sequestration tied up with even larger questions about the Bush-era tax cuts, Medicare and all the rest of it, the picture does not look good for the defense industry or the Building.

Oh, and it gets worse: Even a stalwart defender of DoD’s budget, AEI’s superstar analyst Mackenzie Eaglen, penned a deeply pessimistic column this week about the medium-term prospects for congressional action during and after the lame duck. The only ray of light for anyone in Washington these days is that November’s elections will give one side or the other enough oomph to actually act, but Eaglen worries that won’t happen:

Removed from immediate electoral concerns, the thinking goes, Congress will be freed to act decisively, and the winning side in November will emerge with a clear mandate to avoid sequestration through their preferred method — the Democrats, by raising taxes and the Republicans, by cutting entitlements. But no side is likely to emerge with a clear mandate or large majority. All of the same fights and dug-in positions will still be the same after the election as they are today.

To be sure, her view isn’t universal — some people believe Congress can actually make a dent in its agenda, or at very least use its magic to push everything over into next year without a national meltdown. And to continue on an optimistic note for the defense game, whatever happens in Washington will likely be better than what voters themselves would do if they had direct control.

A poll out Thursday found that a sample of Americans would cut the defense budget by even more than the worst-case scenarios now contemplated in the capital. According to the Center for Public integrity, the Program for Public Consultation and the Stimson Center, “Not only does the public want deep cuts, it wants those cuts to encompass spending in virtually every military domain — air power, sea power, ground forces, nuclear weapons, and missile defenses.”

It continues:

According to the survey, in which respondents were told about the size of the budget as well as shown expert arguments for and against spending cuts, two-thirds of Republicans and nine in 10 Democrats supported making immediate cuts — a position at odds with the leaderships of both political parties. The average total cut was around $103 billion, a substantial portion of the current $562 billion base defense budget, while the majority supported cutting it at least $83 billion. These amounts both exceed a threatened cut of $55 billion at the end of this year under so-called “sequestration” legislation passed in 2011, which Pentagon officials and lawmakers alike have claimed would be devastating.

“When Americans look at the amount of defense spending compared to spending on other programs, they see defense as the one that should take a substantial hit to reduce the deficit,” said Steven Kull, director of the Program for Public Consultation (PPC), and the lead developer of the survey. “Clearly the polarization that you are seeing on the floor of the Congress is not reflective of the American people.”

A broad disagreement with the Obama administration’s current spending approach — keeping the defense budget mostly level — was shared by 75 percent of men and 78 percent of women, all of whom instead backed immediate cuts. That view was also shared by at least 69 percent of every one of four age groups from 18 to 60 and older, although those aged 29 and below expressed much higher support, at 92 percent.

How much of that sentiment could actually translate into action before the end of the year? That will be up to voters.

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Is it bad that i miss the days when congressmen and women were just crooked politicans who while being corrupt had the sense to do what needed done?

Now we have people of Principle!!! And they both far left and far right are just as corrupt but refuse to back off their principles as those who finance their elections are just as far extreme as they can be.

The Iraq and Afghan war have seem to hurt to public’s confidence when it comes to defense spending budgets.

The Days for the USA as a real World Power look to be counted but I see a glim of hope. At last all depends on the results of the election 2012 and based on this you can reduce the aftereffects of this election to four scenarios.

1. The most likely and also the worst case scenario means simply the continuing of the actual situation of a dysfunctional Government with other words Obama still president, the Dems control the Senate and the GOP holds the House. As consequence of this the lame duck season will end in an epic disaster because why now one will be ready to surrender. Now the big Question is what for a consequence will have this for Sequestration because of the completely end of the Bush tax cuts. An Optimist like Rep Adam Smith (D) will say what the 4, 5 Trillion new revenue will be more them enough to replace the sequestration. The only problem here are all communist in the Democratic Party like Barney Frank how are obsess to ruin the DOD and the only what they need is to say no to a law how use a part of the new revenues to avoid sequestration. So the prospects for this election results fluctuate between the complete devastating sequestration and a scenario with no sequestration because of the new incomes from the automatic end of the Bush tax breaks.

2. The second but not so likely result of the election can be a result how means what Obama wins is reelection but the GOP can take the Senate and hold the House. This can be also a result in in favor of the DOD because why the Dems or better said the White House will be forced in the face of their partial defeat to seek a compromise how will comparable to the last proposal of John Boehner how had only close so called tax gaps (about 800 Billion new revenues) and replace sequestration or they will risk a situation in that the GOP will be able to blame the Democrats and especially Obama as the only responsible for the next recession as consequence of Sequestration and the complete expire of the Bush tax cuts. I can continue to split this scenario in more alternative variants but I avoid this by the comment what the Second scenario will allow a lot of Options to fix Sequestration.

3. The third is unfortunately unlikely based on all actual pools and this Scenario is a decisive victory for the GOP (Mitt Romney is President and the GOP control the Senate and the House). This is the best Scenario for the DOD because why it will mean no sequestration and even a possible much larger Budget them actually planed.

4. The fourth Scenario is extreme unrealistic and will mean a decisive Victory for the Dems (The Dems take back the congress, hold the Senate and Obama get reelected) this will mean also no sequestration but a lot of additional pain for the DOD because why the Dems are get in consequence of the diaper of the Blue Dogs Democrats also radical like the Tea Party. It is today really hard to find a responsible Democrat on defense because why all responsible Democratic Representatives like Murta (dead) or Ike Skelton (lose his seat 2010) are gone.

Let’s not lose sight of the fact that the DoD is responsible for some of the gridlock. The conflicting stories, escalating costs, and lack of coherent strategy undoubtedly cause Congress some significant hesitation. A case in point is the F-35 which promises to deliver minor improvements over existing aircraft while nearly bankrupting procurement resources. Or, how about the Navy’s carriers? DoD studies have consistently cited 15 carriers as the minimum required to meet national security needs and yet we’re down to around 10 and the military’s leadership isn’t protesting. Do we need 15 or not. And so on … If DoD would get its story straight, Congress would have at least a bit more motivation.

“When Americans look at the amount of defense spending compared to spending on other programs, they see defense as the one that should take a substantial hit to reduce the deficit,”

Somehow I doubt the general public has a clue where the money goes for the DoD budget. For example, 25% of the DoD base budget goes to personnel costs. Nobody in my family was aware of that when I discussed it with them. If you’re just showing raw numbers, I’m sure they’ll choose something abstract like the DoD budget when placed against something that immediately affects them like Social Security. Some members of Congress fought tooth and nail to prevent the $480 billion reduction already in the works because it would impact their districts which impacts their reelection chances. I seriously doubt any of those people polled would vote to raise taxes, and if they did, they probably chose to raise somebody else’s taxes.

We elect Congress to speak for us because they’re supposed to have the national interest in mind and have the resources to make informed decisions. Obviously they haven’t been, but regardless it’s silly to put such a complex question to someone off the street.

Well, the socialist traitor Obama and his minions are doing their best to destroy America. Seems to be working.

Let us not forget its the Defense hawks like Buck Mckenon who caused Gridlock to begin with.Overall DoD pork waste in areas which we dont need improvement like the wasteful GCV and ICC where the current weapons do just fine now and is leaps over what our most advance potential enemy will ever issue. This is a decade of waste under President Bush have lead us to this and its sad. Republicans want to return to the 2001–9 days a spend spend spend for anything they not the Generals want in service the C-27J is a prime example. This is the US government finally going to ride the whirlwind it started. Sad but it going to happen.

How longer I read many comments hear, the more I see what many people hear doesn’t understand what hear is really happen. I see what People are worry about the waste of money and the really bad performance (the US Military has the worst acquisition performance worldwide) but I see also what this people confuse the worst performance of the DOD with the cause how stand beyond sequestration and even the worst performance of the DDO is at last just the result of the worst performance of the US Government.

So Sequestration was an idea how was created in the last desperate minutes of the dept crisis as the democrats realize what their plan to forces the GOP to rise the taxes and to earn so a decisive win will not work why the GOP was ready to accept even a state bankruptcy to avoid the defeat on this time. And so both sides have made a desperate last minute deal what will make History as one of the biggest mistakes what was ever made in the History. The so called Super committee was at last the result of desperation and a lack of time to consider how bad this idea was. Only as the Super committee failed to reach a deal some lawmakers began to understand what they done but too late. It is also possible what some people have believe what now one will be insane enough to sacrifice the Position of the USA as the Leading World Power how was earned with a lot of American blood and thousands of Billions for idiotic ideology but they there all wrong ! Now it looks like what the Democrats are very comfortable with this idea to put the USA as a World Power an end and the GOP/Tea Party looks also to be ready to do nothing (or better said to accept their defeat) to avoid sequestration or to take responsibility for their mistakes during the depth fight.

Every how is not insane like Barney Frank can see how stupid this sequestration plan is because why it will cost the USA is Position as World Power and this without to solve any deficit problem. But in the congress now one looks to be ready to accept a defeat on their political ideology and so sequestration become likely or it is also possible what all hope what they will win 2012 decisive. And the DOD can do also no more them too tell the Lawmakers the truth and they do this every time since sequestration was created and the Lawmakers on both sides how are not completely idiots know also the truth what sequestering is a unprecedented disaster for the USA but no one are ready to make the first move too solve this problem.

The Democrats look really to believe what they can repeat there successfully tactic against Bush Senior how was forced by them to choose between a completely Hollowed-out military or Tax hikes and he choose tax-hikes and lose the election as consequence. But I don’t believe what the GOP will do the same again and the consequences will be devastating. So devastating like the cuts how there made under the Clinton Administration and how are at last responsible for all Cost overruns and the worst performance what they see today!
And the other Fact about what I want to speak is what about 70–90% (The entire FCS-Program, F22,B2,F35, DDG1000, RAH-66 and a lot more) of all failed DOD Programs there started or ruined under the Clinton Administration and the fact is also what all this programs there started under unrealistic cost projections and requests. But now one looks to ask how this was possible and the simple response to this is what the only they one this time to start a new program was to fake the cost projections (So for example for the F35 and the DDG1000) so the Clinton Administration has effectively ruined the DOD irreparable in order to save an insignificant saves.

Sequestration is a political chip and a game of chicken all at once. Both parties agreed to have it hit after the elections this year for a reason. They both intended to use it as a wedge in the elections this fall. The question is who will use it more shrewdly to their advantage. I would expect there to be a flurry of proposals and counter proposals come October, with associated attack ads. The battle will be over who is better at consensus building and compromising etc. Don’t expect any real movement until October though.

The military has become the victim of their own success. After 9/11 people didn’t feel safe but after a decade of our military dominating the terrorist so thoroughly that the terrorists haven’t been able to do virtually anything in the USA< people feel safe. Now that they feel safe they don’t see a reason to spend lots of money on defense.

Exactly, both parties are using it as a political chip and are not doing what is best for the country.

Could these thrifty little fellows be so crafty as to try and raise the Defense Budget $ above or close to the amount of the future $ cuts? Could they be so simple minded as to cut some of what they raised to avoid any real cuts to the military and avoid “sequestration?” I would not put it past any of the Career Politicians. I guess someone will pull a rabbit out of the hat right before the “hammer drops.”

If they just cut the foreign, economic, nato and UN aid portion of the DoD budget out they would have thier reduction they want and the military would still have thier budget cut from last year. No body seems to want to mention that only the US military will see a reduction to offset that the others still get thier yearly check at the same or higher ammount. The state dept also has funding for these foriegn programs as well, DOT and dept of aggraculture also give foreign aid. American Tax Payer money needs to stay on American soil period as far as I’m concerned, if anyone wants to give foreign aid they can do it through payroll deductions to some agency.

Funny, I’m pretty well read but I’ve never heard of the Center for Public integrity, the Program for Public Consultation and the Stimson Center that are mentioned as having conducted this “survey”. I find it very hard to believe that it was done scientifically or that the questions were posed in a fair manner because based on many many other BETTER DOCUMENTED surveys, there is never this sort of unversal agreement for budgetary matters.

Imagine a survey taker standing there with a pistol who asks 100 people “would you rather pay higher taxes or have me shoot you in the foot”. Next, the survey taker publishes the headline “100% of people surveyed want theur taxes increased”

They are probably the same ones who conducted the survey stating 50% of Americans are OK with gay marrige that we keep hearing over and over again, totaly disregarding the fact that 38 states(which is more than 50% of the US) have laws specificly against it voted for by the people and the average vote was 75% against it (so how does that equate to a 50% split?), so like most surveys I find this one hard to belive as well. I guess they feel that if they tell us enough about any survey that we will finaly believe it to be true rather than thinking for ourselves which seems to be politicly incorrect these days.

This is all code for “Give us more of your money, Mr. Taxpayer, or the Defense budget gets it.” Thanks but no thanks…we can wait it out until 20 January when the cavalry arrives.

I find it amusing that that analyst actually believes that Democrats are likely to raise taxes. They only do that when they can blame a sitting GOP President or the GOP across the aisle. If the Republicans lose control of the House, the Democrats can’t blame them, and would have to raise taxes on their own. Not going to happen!

This is an attempt to maintain the status quo. To prevent painful cuts, begin by closing excess overseas bases. Why does the AF need 4 in the UK. Pull the preposition USMC equipment out of Norway. Eliminate the allied nuclear weapons program. Why do we need to provide nucs and support personel to several European countries. Africa Command — either place it in Africa, Sigonella, or better yet Tampa. The list goes on and on. Reduce the number of flag officers by at least 10%. As for contractors, hold their feet to the fire. Two ship yards produce the same class. One is under buget and on time with long lasting ships. The other one has a product that has problems passing INSUVs with are now, for the first time classified. Why give more money to an institution that can not account for what it has already received? Much work needs to be done.

How about the DOD can not account for trillions of dollars. Do not forget 30 years of program failures.

The GOP has to realize that they are partially responsible for sequestration as long as they don’t compromise on taxes. They effectivle have formed an alliance with the ultra left which wll sink the us military
Senator lugar will be missed

As long as DoD spends money on useless symposiums, unnecessary travel & boon doggles, carries the load for NATO, has their name on auto racing cars, does fly-bys for sporting events, has the Thunderbirds & Blue Angels, pours money into VIP quarters, botches weapon system acquisitions, has a top heavy rank structure, continues to fill their rolls with civil service hires, stays in Afghanistan, (I can do this ALL Day) they have too much money IMO. DoD needs to see how the rest of America has to live, within their means.

The rest of America lives within it’s means? Have you seen Washington lately? The REAL waste is not occurring in defense, it’s all of these other programs we are throwing money at.

Why the hell should we get rid of the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels? Maybe some senators could just stop using the USAF as their personal taxi service instead.

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