Navy Scuttles All-Cap Messages

Navy Scuttles All-Cap Messages

WE DON’T HAVE TO SEND MESSAGES THIS WAY ANYMORE, the Navy has decided.

Word went out from the Navy’s Fleet Cyber Command on May 8 that the Navy’s internal messaging system now had the ability to transmit in lower case as well as the traditional upper case letters.

“Therefore, it is not necessary to limit Navy messages entirely to upper case,” said the directive, first reported by the Navy Times.
Of course, the message saying that upper case was no longer needed went out this way: “THEREFORE, IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO LIMIT NAVY MESSAGES ENTIRELY TO UPPER CASE.”


Alone among the services, the Navy has been using all capitals for internal administrative messages from the routine to the emergency going back more than a century to the days when teletype machines only sent capitals.

The reasoning behind the change was that messages in lower and upper case were easier to read, Navy officials said. Another factor was that younger recipients of all-cap messages might tend to think that the person sending them was SCREAMING AT THEM AND REALLY TICKED OFF.

“The capability has been there for about a year” to send routine messages in lower case, said Lt. Joseph Holstead, a spokesman for the Cyber Command. The next step will be to expand that capability to secret and top secret messages, possibly in August, Holstead said.

“There are still a couple of legacy systems out there that we’ll have to convert,” probably in mid-2014, Holstead said.

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THANK GOD!

WHAT! NO MORE SCREAMING MESSAGES. The Navy is really getting soft ;-P

FROM NOW ON ITs WILL HAVE TO SQUINT!

MY CHAIN OF COMMAND IS NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS.

Welcome to the 1990s!

I miss the clatter of a dozen or more teletypes banging away and the eerie silence when the HF signals weren’t cooperating!

Next thing you know, they’re going to get rid of the Fleet Broadcast.

Dogs and cats living together…mass hysteria!

The reason for caps is semaphore

““The capability has been there for about a year” to send routine messages in lower case, said Lt. Joseph Holstead, a spokesman for the Cyber Command.”

*Blinks* It’s only been available for a year? A single year? Good God, what happened to the US military being on the cutting edge of technology?

Perhaps even before semaphore: signal flags.

Having twice as many signal flags for upper and lower case and ensuring symbols do not get confused in battle smoke would be an incredibly terrible chore.

This just in, we’ll double font size to compensate for loss of caps.

It’s going to take them until 2014 to convert some legacy systems? WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOUR PROGRAMMERS? If it takes them a whole year to incorporate lower case letters in the data processing systems, then they’re obviously used to taking it easy most of the time.

Dave (ex-programmer)

Nice one blight, very funny.

Dave

The CPOs I have known, however, will always be communicating in all caps, forever, God bless them all.

W Sanders, as a retired CPO, Thank you for bringing that smile to my face. I guess I did communicate mostly in upper case! lol

WOW, AS I STARTED READING THIS THAT OOOOH SO FAMILIAR SOUND OF TTY BANGING AWAY WITH THE YELLOW TAPE ALL OVER THE FLOOR, GAVE ME A BIG SMILE, I CAN REMBER WHEN WE TURNED OFF OUR LAST TTY AS WE WERE RCVING MSGS VIA PCMT.…IT WAS SOOOO QUIET I KEPT THINKING SOMETHING WAS WRONG. DIDNT THE SM, RATE MERGE WITH QM,. THE PROBLEM I SEE AS THAT SOME MESSGAES ARE GOING TO BE ALL CAPS. AND OTHERS WILL BE UPPPER AND LOWER CASE BECAUSE MOST HARD CORE SQUIDS WILL REBELL AGAINST THE CHANGE. JUST LIKE THEY DID WHEN WE WENT TO MSGS BEING DELIVERED ON A DISK. MOST CMDS STILL WANTED HARD COPIES. ZKJ THIS TRANSMISSION.….….……

ZZG ZZG; .….….….….…my gosh what I have forgotten ! :)

Billable hours. Lots of them.

LOUD NOISES

Some of those systems are on ships, which are out doing other things right now. It’s a bit more demanding to upgrade old millitary hardware in the field than just pushing the Windows Update button.

I had an Ordnance Chief that would yell in all caps!

BZ. About time. So, to celebrate: AD28.

Well that’s a good reason why it might take longer. However, I know a little about working for the government vs. working in the private sector. I’ve interviewed many ex-government employees seeking private sector employment. A representative reason why these people wanted to leave state employment is as follows;

I want to leave state employment because I can’t stand the boredom of the job.

And why are they bored? Because they are never given enough work to do. One person told me that he wanted to move because he finished his project after 3 months, and when he went to his boss, he was told that he’d have to work slower from then on. The project was scheduled to last 6 months, and therefore he’d have nothing to do for the next 3 months.

This is typical of government employment and if it doesn’t match your experience, then you’re the exception to the rule.

Dave

Welcome to the 1970s, US Navy. Why did this take so long? So weird.

Sure yeah, but mixed case messaging is 50 years old, at least.

“Until 2014″ is only six months. It’s aggressive to do any software release in 6 months. Usually it is not the fault of the programmers, but the management. I mean, do you really think it’s the programmers who’ve kept the US Navy 50 years behind the rest of the world? Programmers complain about that kind of thing.

The military is NEVER on the cutting edge. The military is usually about 30 years behind — but this is ridiculous.

It’s been available to the general public for many years but there are many many military systems that are not upgraded for cost reasons until they are really, really old. The current CANES program is replacing legacy servers with up to date technology and I can tell you that some of the servers currently deployed that will be replaced are running Windows 95.

Sorry Jasmine, but you need to reread the article. Mid-2014 is when they anticipate that the project will be complete, and since it’s mid-2013 right now, that’s one year, not 6 months, in my officially issued programmer calendar.

And to say that I’m implying that it’s programmers that are keeping “the US Navy 50 years behind” is a red herring. I never said any such thing, I merely suggested that none of them have enough work to do and that they might well complete the project quicker they were working for a “for profit” employer.

You seem a little overly sensitive about my comments, you wouldn’t by any chance be some sort of state employed computer programmer yourself, would you? Or be related to one? Just interested in fair disclosure here …

regards .… Dave

Doctordave777 — reminds me back in the late sixties working as a tech for a private contractor for NASA on Analog to Digital conversion systems. A team of NASA techs had been working on one system for over six months. When they turned it over us we had it up and running by noon the same day. A lot of red faces on that day. We never saw those techs again.

And when someone had to try and figure out what kludges you’d done to cobble the system into barely-operational condition, they ended up spending more money than it would have cost if you’d just done it properly in the first place.

But hey those duuuuuumb NASA techs amirite LOOOOOOOOLLLZZZ

Bull Halsey’s ghost is weeping.

I was thinking auto-bold.

ROFL… I can send comms around the world digitally over the air using amateur radio equipment that costs less than a toilet seat or wrench and have been able to for years, yet the greatest navy in the world has just figured out how to do this… TOOOOOOO funny…

UrGEnT MsG frOm MarCOm: To FLeeT
PleASe DoNt Do seND MeSsAgEs LikE ThiS

I can see it now… ROFL

We WERE cutting edge. We were using the internet long before any of this stuff you see before you.

RM3
USS MIDWAY, Forward deployed in Japan 85–87

You nailed it Zak!

That was exactly my thought!!!

ZBM2 FOR CRAPS SAKE.……

Once again the Navy fixes something that is not broken. Navy messages have been in capital letters long before email and social media existed. So stating the someone might think you are screaming at them is bogus and just more bull being fed to the audience.

THE KINDER. GENTLER NAVY. CAN’T HAVE PEOPLE THINKING THEY ARE BEING YELLED AT, BY JIMINY!

You all forgot CW! No need for caps or lower case, etc. Just a good receiver and a signal. It’s a good thing!

The U.S. Navy.…200 years of tradition unhampered by progress.

This is the dawn of the Apocalypse.…WE MUST NOT KILL THE CAPS !!!

blight_ you are a genius! I never thought of that, but the answer is clear as a bell. Alphabet *pennants* to compliment the alphabet *flags*. We already do it with numbers, why not letters. This would bring the flagbag up to 94 in total (in addition to the standard 68 which are: 26 letters of the alphabet flags, 10 numeral flags, 10 numeral pennants, 18 special flags and pennants, and 4 substitutes).

For semaphore I guess standing on your tippy-toes could make upper case.

Now about Morse Code…

now THAT was a welcome comment OldSalt — times long gone for sure…

EEEHHH? CAN’T HEAR YOU»>

Sema-Who?

LOL!

As a former TTY repairman, and Radioman. I knew, it was only a matter of time until the Whiner’s in the new navy would become totally POLITICALLY CORRECT. That’s how WUSS became a word of IDENTITY for the crybabies who now complain about everything. TOO BAD. The Navy millions of us once knew, no longer exists.

BRAVO ZULU.….….….….….BT AR

Does the current Radioman have to know Morse Code these days?? 22 WPM to graduate out of “A” school in ’62.… and at that time, TTY was the dominant form of communications in the USN, And for the purpose of 100% communications capacity, we still learned Morse code.

When the Alaska Earthquake occurred in 1965, the ONLY communications method available to the USN for the first 12 hours was CW and that was to NAS Whidbey and we forwarded to CincPac and CNO.

Pussies; I say… Pussies one and all!

I expect that there will be MUCH confusion over this. I’m also sure that not every command will have this capability. Realistically I would expect if to be fully fielded in about ten years.

Another social engineering attempt THAT WILL result in more waste of resources as all before

USN RET

All these tender young boots have been taught that ALL CAPS are SCREAMING! As a 75 year old retired Chief, I say let’s join the 21st century, so they will know when we are SCREAMING AT THEM! LOL Chief Boring

amen SEADOG, we would not want to offend our young recipients. or hurt their feelings. coming from a former SEABEE. kids nowadays have it too easy.

DAMM SQUIDS!!!

SEMPER FI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not explain to the now generation why they have used caps. What a crock of PC

wolfy wolf.. or WOLFY WOLF… better yet, Wolfy Wolf: (cute name by the way), where do you buy your toilet seats? Just wondering…

The caps definition as screaming is more of the PC crap from “social media” geeks. Now if I wanted to “scream” at someone on a social media site, I’d change the font to a LARGER on than just plain caps.…. The fact that this has even become an issue shows as the Naval Institute “Proceedings” Review issue shows that there are far too many admirials and ‘heavy brass’ in the services with little to do but listen to some GS something dweeb on their staff (or in congress) whine about being offended by capital letters on the page.

Yeah, but it isn’t just the “SHOUTING” thing. Text really is easier to read in the usual mixed case like most of the world uses.

Change for the sake of change… somebody surely spent a ton of time coming up with this and probably got a huge bonus!

Now I have to clean orange cream soda off my keyboard. Kinda stings as it shoots out your nose.

FAT enough yet? God, the fattest people I’ve ever served with were NAVY people. Now your feelings are hurt by reading all CAPS? THIS ISN’T FACEBOOK PEOPLE!, THIS IS THE REAL WORLD. WAKE UP AND GET YOUR FACES OUT OF THE ICE CREAM BOWL. ALL CAPS!? SURELY THERE’S A WARTIME MEDAL FOR THAT… RIGHT? NAVY…

I don’t think it had anything to do with “screaming”, it had to do with no misunderstanding of the letters, thus no mistakes in the message. “Screaming” in caps came long after the Navy used caps, so that argument is null.

They are messages, not blog posts. What a waste of time and energy. Guess what, messages are easier to type in all caps so it saves time.

This might be the case for contractors, but as an employee of the Navy, I have more work than I can do. I used to work at least an hour overtime (without pay) every day, always worked through lunch, even came in on a few weekends (without pay) just trying to get one thing or another completed. I’m not the only one. We have office workers and blue collars doing the same. We are so undermanned and behind schedule, the management is asking white collar workers to go work on the waterfront to do blue collar jobs. Meanwhile, we are sending billions overseas to people who hate us. Thanks, Odumbo!

My son-in-law worked for the Navy writing a program. He had to write the program, then send it over the network to another guy in anther building who would compile it and run it. Then he would write down the errors and crashes and email them back to my son-in-law to fix. It was ABSURD. Son-in-law finished that project and never went back.

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