Shutdown Hits Navy Shipyards Hard

Shutdown Hits Navy Shipyards Hard

While ongoing operations involving ships at sea and forward-deployed forces are moving along as scheduled, the government shutdown is reverberating throughout the Navy, especially at its shipyards.

More than 75,000 Navy civilian employees will be furloughed, service officials said.

“A government shutdown places significant additional hardships on our workforce which has already been strained by recent administrative furloughs. Unlike an administrative furlough, which occurred during summer of 2013, a shutdown furlough is unplanned and occurs when an agency no longer has the funds necessary to operate and must shut down those activities that are not excepted,” said Lt. Cmdr. Rebecca Rebarich, a Navy spokeswoman.


The Navy will continue to support key military and flight operations as scheduled, Rebarich said. Ships will remain at sea if they directly support what’s called “excepted” activity, such as a military operation, she said.

Due to planning or operational requirements, all maintenance availabilities scheduled to begin during the first quarter of fiscal year ‘14 are also already on contract and will not be affected, Rebarich explained.

However, the shutdown will very likely impact ongoing maintenance work in other cases, she added.

“Shipyard work at private shipyards would continue on ongoing availabilities since funding has already been authorized and contracted for the jobs being performed. However, no new contracts will be [awarded] and no new work will be added to the availability. For public yards, essential excepted work would continue while non-essential excepted work will be delayed until there is funding,” Rebarich said.

Furloughs are slated to occur at all four of the Navy’s public shipyards, U.S. Naval Institute news reports. This includes Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, Bremerton, Wash., Norfolk Naval Yard, Norfolk, Va., Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, Kittery, Maine, and Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard, Hawaii.

Rebarich also added that the in-processing of new recruits will continue during the shutdown.

“We had all hoped to avoid this scenario and further hope that it will be short-lived, wanting to get back to normal operations as quick as possible,” Vice Adm. Bill Moran, Chief of Naval personnel, stated in a written statement.

The shutdown’s impact upon ongoing Navy contracting and acquisition is not yet fully known but potentially substantial, service officials said.

Due to the lapse of appropriations, the majority of civilian personnel assigned to Navy research, development and acquisition are in a non-pay furlough status, Cmdr. Thurraya Kent said in a written statement.

“It is not immediately known what impact this major disruption in staffing will have on Navy acquisitions. We will continue to conduct contracting and contract administration activities in support of current military requirements,” she added.

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What a DISTRACTION…Repubs and Dems, BOTH, acting like spoiled children…
Just so some MORE important news doesn’t get heard…
Hey, everybody just take a good, long, relaxing vacation…
Why NOT…???… Until they AUDIT the FED, it’s all funny money, anyway…
I’d rather live a long, healthy, happy life of poverty,
than a short, stressed-out life of wealth…
Subvert the FedGov obstructionists — outlive them, outlove them, out last them, and LAUGH them out of office…
THAT is the American Way

send them all packing next election

Too bad military operations are “excepted” from the shut down. If the whole DoD shut down for 30 days, that would cover the $50 billion for this year’s sequestration hit that’s coming. Might as well get that pain over with quickly.

How bout ships crews undertaking some of the repairs on their ships while they are sitting in the shipyard. The crews should have members with most of the skills needed. After all these union guys are not rocket scientists

It has to be excepted. Otherwise we could be open to aggression. Remember we still have boots on the ground in the Middle East.

I have been saying that for quite sometime, they are almost impossible to dislodge. Also, We the People must send a clear message to Congress on term limits, no more immunity from prosecution.

Note: Norfolk Naval Yard is in Portsmouth, VA, not Norfolk. And while I’m at it, it’s correct name is Norfolk Naval Shipyard.

@moondawg Some of us have been deployed for almost a year and would rather not take on the task of having go through more training and/or schooling(which would cost MORE money)and have be expected to work longer hours to repair the problems with our ships we are not properly qualified nor trained to fix. Sailors already do more than 95% of the repairs required on our equipment (how do you think things get fixed while we’re underway), to ask them to take even more responsibility is just not fair to them or their families.

We hear that “fire them all” rhetoric until election day when it becomes “fire them all.…except my guy is OK”

guess you’ve never been on a ship in the yeard…the crew does A LOT of the work on ships in overhaul. The “yardbirds” as we called shipyard workers do most of the more technical jobs but the crew does almost all of the scrapping, sanding, painting and minor remodeling of the spaces.

Yeah, well the “Portsmouth Naval Shipyard” ( PNSY ) may be in “Kittery, Maine”, but Portsmouth is in New Hampshire…So, what’s yer point…???…

I was just curious as to why the article shows a picture of a battleship that is out of commission rather than a commissioned ship in a dry dock or pierside being worked on? Kris?

Congress needs more incentive to modify their behavior like not getting paid themselves when they can’t learn how to work together for the benefit of the nation and it’s people. They have no incentive as it stands now they are still collecting their paychecks for doing nothing!

Trillions of dollars in debt! Printing money to paper over the problem! Taking devalued money out of one pocket and putting it in another. The wealth building portion of the American economy is on the rocks! SHUT MORE OF THE FEDERAL GOVT DOWN. NOT LESS!

Obamacare is still going to eat your lunch.

Agreed. Everyone must vote out their guy. The gerrymandering makes it that much harder though…

More privatize?

Blame Obama were is his leadership no just lovign this shutdown as another attack on the GOP.

Good luck on getting your welfare check from the post office! :)

…the other problem is that I (the guy that keeps paying the bills) keep voting them back into office. :)

shutting down the every growing list of entitlements for a couple of days buys the same return. :)

My congressman is donating his salary to his charity, what about yours? :)

Now would be a good time to re-examine all of these non-essential federal jobs and re-align them with the states that can better control the wasted federal spending which is now flagrant in the US federal employees “Land of milk and honey!” :)

It’s funny because the shipyards, where real work is actually done, are shut down, while the defense contractor facilities where these ships are supposedly being designed are still open charging you $1.10 for every dollar they spend designing the next trailing edge ship. So as is typical for our Navy, all the real work grinds to a stop while the graft and corruption continues unabated. Of course, they’d have to have honor to be embarrassed.

GOP = GREEDY OLD PIGS
Obama = Greedy Old Demoncracker…(“GOD”)…
Neither of which has ANYTHING to do with Navy shipyard shutterings…

Don’t even put the DEMS in this rightwing mess.

Rightwing, Leftwing, SAME THING…
Repubs, Dems, SAME THING…
Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush2, Obama.…
ALL SAME THING…
Congress? ALL RICH LAWYERS…same thing, same thing…
The ONLY thing they ALL care about, is money and power…power and money…SAME THING…

With all due respect; moondawg clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Blame for his whole thing should be being laid where it belongs; at the feet of Commander in Chief. If he were a competent he would know how to show leadership on these issues and avoided the issue. Instead he continues
to just pass the buck. It unlikely we’ll see anything like a leader until we can put someone else in the Whitehouse.
As long as the media is willing to overlook this floundering executive; the public will never know how really inept
this President has been and will be.

Yeah, most “rocket scientists” have Ph.D.‘s…they don’t need unions…
And crews are assigned to ships, not chained to them…
Heck, most of us posting on here don’t know what we’re talking about,
but we sure THINK we do!…lol…
Yeah, that goes for me, too…

Bronc,
Both tax-and-spend democratic presidents and borrow-and-spend republican presidents do the same exact thing once in office. The name of the game is take the taxpayers for a ride and support your big business cronies. For being America’s first MBA president (from Yale), George Bush Jr. was THE most incompetent president we’ve ever had. Obama just doesn’t follow through on his promises (one of which was to shut down the wars) and wants to maintain the American welfare state. BTW, the biggest welfare queen of all is Lockheed Martin.

…do you want the Executive taking over Legislative activity any more than it already does?

The republic will NOT survive a decree-based country/dictatorship. It will tear itself apart if it comes to that. And if the country swings between command-decree-maximum-liberal and command-decree-maximum-conservative, I can’t imagine any company would want to stay here for long: the tax code and regulatory uncertainty would kill business.

“Can we dump the chicken droppings in the river this year? Do we have to raise minimum wage again this year? Ugh, let’s just go to Mexico!”

Here is what our dudes were doing today in the house. Starting work at TEN AM!

Ahem, ahem.

10:00:00 A.M. The House convened, starting a new legislative day.
10:00:52 A.M. The Speaker designated the Honorable Glenn Thompson to act as Speaker pro tempore for today.
10:01:10 A.M. MORNING-HOUR DEBATE — The House proceeded with Morning-Hour Debate. At the conclusion of Morning-Hour Debate, the House will recess until 12:00 p.m. for the start of legislative business.
11:49:52 A.M. The Speaker announced that the House do now recess for a period of less than 15 minutes
12:00:30 P.M. The House convened, returning from a recess continuing the legislative day of October 2.
12:00:31 P.M. Today’s prayer was offered by the House Chaplain, Rev. Patrick J. Conroy.
12:01:40 P.M. POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS ON APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL — The Chair announced that he had examined the Journal of the last day’s proceedings and had approved it. Mr. Cicilline demanded that the question be put on agreeing to the Speaker’s approval of the Journal and by voice vote, the Chair announced that the ayes had prevailed. Mr. Cicilline demanded the yeas and nays and the Chair postponed further proceedings on the question of agreeing to the Speaker’s approval of the Journal until later in the legislative day.
12:02:30 P.M. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE — The Chair designated Mr. Womack to lead the Members in reciting the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
12:02:37 P.M. ONE MINUTE SPEECHES — The House proceeded with one minute speeches, which by direction of the Chair would be limited to 15 per side of the aisle.
12:41:11 P.M. The Speaker announced that the House do now recess. The next meeting is subject to the call of the Chair.

1:40:25 P.M. The House convened, returning from a recess continuing the legislative day of October 2.
1:41:43 P.M. Mr. Woodall filed a report from the Committee on Rules on H. Res. 370.
1:42:10 P.M.H. Res. 370 Considered as privileged matter. H. Res. 370 — “Providing for consideration of the joint resolution (H.J. Res. 70) making continuing appropriations for National Park Service operations, the Smithsonian Institution, the National Gallery of Art, and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes; providing for consideration of the joint resolution (H.J. Res. 71) making continuing appropriations of local funds of the District of Columbia for fiscal year 2014; providing for consideration of the joint resolution (H.J. Res. 72) making continuing appropriations for veterans benefits for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes; providing for consideration of the joint resolution (H.J. Res. 73) making continuing appropriations for the National Institutes of Health for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes; providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 3230) making continuing appropriations during a Government shutdown to provide pay and allowances to members of the reserve components of the Armed Forces who perform inactive-duty training during such period; and providing for consideration of motions to suspend the rules.“
1:44:23 P.M.H. Res. 370 DEBATE — The House proceeded with one hour of debate on H. Res. 370.
3:20:22 P.M.H. Res. 370 On ordering the previous question Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 227 — 197 (Roll no. 509).
3:28:41 P.M.H. Res. 370 On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 228 — 198 (Roll no. 510).
3:28:42 P.M.H. Res. 370 Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
3:28:45 P.M. UNFINISHED BUSINESS — The Chair announced that the unfinished business was on the Speaker’s approval of the Journal on which previous proceedings had been postponed.
3:36:32 P.M. On approving the Journal Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 246 — 173, 2 Present (Roll no. 511).
3:36:53 P.M.H.J. Res. 71 Considered under the provisions of rule H. Res. 370. H.J. Res. 71 — “Making continuing appropriations of local funds of the District of Columbia for fiscal year 2014.“
3:36:58 P.M.H.J. Res. 71 The resolution provides for consideration of H.J. Res. 70, H.J. Res. 71, H.J. Res. 72, H.J. Res. 73, and H.R. 3230. The resolution provides for 30 minutes of debate on each measure and provides for one motion to recommit each measure. The resolution also provides that it shall be in order at any time through the calendar day of October 6, 2013, for the Speaker to entertain motions that the House suspend the rules.
3:37:21 P.M.H.J. Res. 71 DEBATE — The House proceeded with 30 minutes of debate on H.J. Res. 71.
4:19:44 P.M.H.J. Res. 71 The previous question was ordered pursuant to the rule.
4:19:49 P.M.H.J. Res. 71 On passage Passed by voice vote.
4:20:44 P.M.H.J. Res. 71 Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
4:25:52 P.M.H.J. Res. 73 Considered under the provisions of rule H. Res. 370. H.J. Res. 73 — “Making continuing appropriations for the National Institutes of Health for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes.“
4:25:57 P.M.H.J. Res. 73 The resolution provides for consideration of H.J. Res. 70, H.J. Res. 71, H.J. Res. 72, H.J. Res. 73, and H.R. 3230. The resolution provides for 30 minutes of debate on each measure and provides for one motion to recommit each measure. The resolution also provides that it shall be in order at any time through the calendar day of October 6, 2013, for the Speaker to entertain motions that the House suspend the rules.

4:26:36 P.M.H.J. Res. 73 DEBATE — The House proceeded with 30 minutes of debate on H.J. Res. 73.
5:08:53 P.M.H.J. Res. 73 POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS — At the conclusion of debate on H.J. Res. 73, the Chair put the question on adoption of the resolution and by voice vote announced that the ayes had prevailed. Mr. Kingston demanded the yeas and nays, and the Chair postponed further proceedings on adoption of the resolution until a time to be announced.
5:09:53 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 Considered under the provisions of rule H. Res. 370. H.J. Res. 70 — “Making continuing appropriations for National Park Service operations, the Smithsonian Institution, the National Gallery of Art, and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes.“
5:09:58 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 The resolution provides for consideration of H.J. Res. 70, H.J. Res. 71, H.J. Res. 72, H.J. Res. 73, and H.R. 3230. The resolution provides for 30 minutes of debate on each measure and provides for one motion to recommit each measure. The resolution also provides that it shall be in order at any time through the calendar day of October 6, 2013, for the Speaker to entertain motions that the House suspend the rules.
5:10:13 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 DEBATE — The House proceeded with 30 minutes of debate on H.J. Res. 70.
5:49:49 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 The previous question was ordered pursuant to the rule.
5:50:18 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 Mr. Van Hollen moved to recommit with instructions to Appropriations.
5:50:19 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 DEBATE — The House proceeded with 10 minutes of debate on the Van Hollen motion to recommit with instructions. The instructions contained in the motion seek to require the bill to be reported back to the House with an amendment to replace the underlying bill with the Senate Amendment to H.J. Res. 59, pending reservation of a point of order.
5:54:20 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 Mr. Simpson raised a point of order against the motion to recommit with instructions. Mr. Simpson stated that the provisions of the amendment exceed the scope of the bill and the amendment is therefore, not germane Sustained by the Chair.
6:02:36 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 Mr. Van Hollen appealed the ruling of the chair. The question was then put on sustaining the ruling of the chair.
6:02:47 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 Mr. Simpson moved to table the appeal of the ruling of the chair
6:29:33 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 On motion to table the motion to appeal the ruling of the chair Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (Roll no. 512).
6:35:56 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 On passage Passed by recorded vote: (Roll no. 513).
6:35:57 P.M.H.J. Res. 70 Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
6:36:08 P.M.H.J. Res. 73 Considered as unfinished business. H.J. Res. 73 — “Making continuing appropriations for the National Institutes of Health for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes.“
6:49:52 P.M.H.J. Res. 73 On passage Passed by the Yeas and Nays: (Roll no. 514).
6:49:52 P.M.H.J. Res. 73 Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
6:50:05 P.M.H.R. 3233 Mr. Goodlatte asked unanimous consent to discharge from committee and consider.
6:50:05 P.M.H.R. 3233 Considered by unanimous consent. H.R. 3233 — “The title of this measure is not available.“
6:50:40 P.M.H.R. 3233 On passage Passed without objection.
6:51:53 P.M.H.R. 3233 Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
6:52:30 P.M. ONE MINUTE SPEECHES — The House proceeded with further one minute speeches.

After wiping the blood from my eyes, I’ve decided the Military Decision Making Process is lightning compared to government.

The GOP have essentially jumped over the political cliff and have nothing to lose at this point; thus, no matter what Obama has to say will change things unless he’s willing to give in. Obama needs to think about what might happen if Congress takes the debate to DEFCON 1 and refuses to raise the Debt limit which is just a couple of weeks away.

…R*E*L*A*X*, blight_, my friend…Their power lies in your fear…
Not even the CLOWNS in Congress can break the will and Spirit of America, and the American PEOPLE…
We will still be standing, long after these clowns have packed it in, and gone home…
This whole CHARADE is just a DISTRACTION…
THEY need US, far more than WE need THEM…
*Semper*Fidelis*AMERICA*
P.S.: THNX 4 the Legislative update…See? Congress is *B*O*R*I*N*G*!…

I think the article is a lie.

Pretty much. Naval Shipyards are funded in a way that avoids the impact of a shutdown. As the article states, there could be a day to day impact on starting new overhauls (many start at the beginning of the fiscal year — lots of in house games are played around this date — notwithstanding the participation of Congress).

Sounds like someone wanted to beat the drum and make more of the impact than it is — especially for a week or two. This having been said, I am sure the managers (Naval officers and senior civilians) are having a hrad time juggling all of this.

NOT trying to argue, but I really think the media has overblown this, and that most Americans are not very upset, or particularly bothered…I clearly remember when that slug Newtie Gingrich and the Repubtards played this same GAME back in the 1990’s… Back then, the stoopid Dems played along, just like now…
I blame Congress, and the stoopid DUOPOLY, of BOTH parties…
~registered INDEPENDENT voter…

I tend to agree with your basic premise; i.e., when a “shutdown” occurs there should be a prioritization of funding at the highest levels. Why must each government agency accept a proportional share of the cut?? I contend NONessential agencies absorb the bulk of cuts in the short term. My definition of a NONessential federal agency would be: EPA, DOE, Dept of Homeland Security (plenty of other agencies doing the same thing), DEA (basically ineffective), etc. However, it appears no one has the interest or fortitude to prioritize funding at that level. Our elected officials are too busy finding others to blame to sit down and come to grips with the reality of a smaller federal budget.

…dial it down a few decibels, otay, Buckwheat?…The “shutdown” occurred because Bonehead Boehner and the Repubtards decided to play kid games, and the Democrappers let ‘em…ALL spending bills are the responsibility of *CONGRESS*, not the POTUS…try actually READING the Constitution sometime…
Don’t waste you time reading the Bible…that’s only for Christians…You might accidentally read the part where Jesus Christ say, “Love your enemies”…
(…surely you remember Bush, Sr., and his “little brown ones”…???…)

Moondawg your heart is in the right place but sadly the sailors do not have the skill level that the shipyard employees have. I have been in both places and my first day in the shipyard after four plus years as an E-5 Electrician Mate I realized I did not know sqat. A four year apprentship has a leg up on a 14 week school and on the job training. If the sailors could perform major repairs we would not need shipyards. A big part of my active military time was spent on field day, firefighting training, military training , watch standing with very little time for technical training which amounted to very little knowledge in the complex world of ship repair.

Because reporters who know very little about the military are not the most qualified or intelligent people on the planet to do their jobs correctly!!

They will blame Bush!!

Obama doesn’t follow through on his promises because he is a pathological LIAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reginald On what do you base your comment “rightwing mess”?

All spending bills are to originate in the House, not Congress which also includes the Senate. Try actually reading the constitution sometime instead of recommending it to others.

Obviously Our Country along with everything else has forgotten the word “IMPEACHMENT”! This President must be stopped!! Capitalism is just about gone. Its an absolute SHAME!!!

Executive branch: We want more money to spend on new projects. We can borrow more!
Congressional branch: We have given allowance for $7T in the last 5 years.
Executive branch: We lost that on bailouts and stimulus to bolster the ecomony, but they abused it in
bonuses and filed for bankruptcy to keep from paying it back.
Congressional branch: Wow! Sounds like someone really did their homework and figured out how to get free money from the taxpayers. Where was the oversight?
Executive branch: Oversight? What’s that? We just need to raise more taxes to cover the loss. We have the power to do that!
Congressional branch: The power we have is the voice of the people and they voted for us in the trust that we would represent their voice, not subject to political ambitions.

Bull *hit. If you sail it you own it and you better learn how to fix it. The Navy now has a plug and play mentality. Life is not fair and if you had any pride you would not write such a reply. I have pulled turbine casings and replaced turbine blades and bearings as a MM. We had Et’s doing depot level maintenance on equipment to keep it operating. Ship yards are for large repairs, dry docking, structural mods, etc. If some one built it, some one can fix it. MMCS(SW) USN Ret.

Repubtards create a “rightwing mess”, and the Demo-crackers create a “leftwing mess”…
SAME THING…
On one wing, even the American Eagle only flies in circles…

Same to YOU…I’m referring to HERKEY’s slamming Obama personally, by raising the general objection that CONGRESS, not POTUS, creates spending bills…and “ARAB PALS” is simply psychotic hatred…I’ve read the Constitution several times, and refer often to the copy I carry with me…

Just as Ed said, the crews do take on a lot of the work while a ship is in the yard. But, because of the union contracts that nearly all work is tied to anything that the crew might do that violates the contract would end up in court and the union would shut the entire operation down until the court decides what happens. Many years ago when I was TAD to the SeaBees detachment at Mayport Naval Station the Navy Exchange wanted the SeaBees to build a new package store (liquor store) on base. When the local trade unions found out about it they filed a lawsuit against the Navy because there is a law that states the SeaBees cannot do any work on any stateside base that exceeds a certain dollar amount. The new package store would have cost $50K if the Seabees built it, it ended up going to local trade unions and cost the Navy over $250K.

Most Americans are, to borrow from Huxley, Epsilons who thrive on simple tasks and Thing Of Choice to get them through the day.

’cause someone will whine about opsec, espionage and China?

Because that’s the view from the Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard.

The president is required to submit a proposed spending plan, when was the last time he actually did that? I’m asking because I’m not sure as I can’t recall this POTUS going through the proper steps.

President Obama submitted his budget proposal for FY14 the first week of April of this year, though it was a couple months late. The House and Senate each submit their budget proposals in February as well. There was some discussion that he waited this year until after Congress got the ball rolling as a political move since everyone knew both proposals weren’t going to work. Budget negotiations for the next FY usually start in February with the whole thing being voted into law by July (which hasn’t happened in years). Last year he submitted it on time in February.

In the process, each department is supposed to be thoroughly debated with each department voted on in separate bills. The last time that happened was when Clinton and Gingrich were running the show. When that doesn’t happen you get an Omnibus bill which is everything Congress failed to do that year rolled into one bill or a Continuing Resolution which kicks the can down the road for a few more months which we’ve had dozens of them since 2009.

Here is a good explaination from 2011:
http://​abcnews​.go​.com/​b​l​o​g​s​/​p​o​l​i​t​i​c​s​/​2​0​1​1​/​0​9​/​c​ont

Thank God we do not do things like our founding father’s ! This so called Tea Party needs a dose of they’re own poison , Which always happens when one screws over those they think are lesser then them . And the house needs to stand up now & take their manhood back. What are these so called good ole boy’s going to do when they go broke paying the medical bill’s their insurance companies they have now refuse to pay up. It matter’s not what party you belong to. It matter’s now what you have done to your fellow Americans. You F—– over your country pretending to know what your doing. The truth is you all know nothing. Take some EXLAX to clean out the vile putrid you dumped on the American’s who are your Bosses. TEA PARTY is over boy’s ‚go wipe your ass

How did they do it?

The Constitutional Convention didn’t go over very easily. The Great Compromise gave us the House and the Senate. We didn’t ban political parties, and they’ve led to the political bosses who owned vote blocs and used them to determine elections at the state and federal level. Our political reforms briefly revived representative democracy until special interests decided they represented the people, and merely needed to adjust and control the elected representatives…

I’m afraid to ask what happens when our ships are attacked at sea and have to do serious damage control. During the Age of Sail ship repair was more straightforward. But nowadays…

It’s because the folks who write all of this crap are so out of touch with reality that they have no real idea of what is going on!

Term limits. PLEASE

Let me see. If the HOUSE did their job and got Appropriation Bills written, then the Senate could vote on those Appropriation Bills. After that, the House and Senate would negotiate and finalize the Appropriation Bills and the President could sign the Appropriation Bills. Where are the Appropriation Bills? Where is the negotiation? IF CONGRESS DID THEIR JOB, WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS POSITION EVERY YEAR!!!!!

The shipyards are still open and working http://​blogs​.defensenews​.com/​i​n​t​e​r​c​e​p​t​s​/​2​0​1​3​/​1​0/8… . The only shipbuilding function that’s really impacted is SUPSHIP (not a show stopper yet) and eventually the Test and Evaluation teams (which will take some time to cause significant impact).

House pushes what they want. Senate can agree with it, or send something else back.

Both houses must agree to the exact same budget before the POTUS ever sees it.

At some point Continuing Resolutions should be initiated in a joint, since much time is wasted passing first drafts back and forth between houses which causes a conference committee to be appointed anyways to hash out the differences, which then have to be voted on by all 535 critters.

I would propose that Congress adopts the residency-style “On Call” regime where they are locked into their chambers for 80 hours/week to vote. We shall put cots in the house and senate and a corner with kitty litter to use until agreement on continuing resolutions to fund the government are passed.

Thanks for the clarification.

The agencies that have guys with guns tend to sell themselves better as “priority agencies”.

NASA, NIH, Mine safety and EPA are taking a backseat, Department of Energy scaled back (not sure what you have against the DOE, unless you’re just going after Department of Education).

Means they’re rich. There’s one congresscritter in NC who’s on the poor side and apparently needs the paycheck (though the fact she puts her paycheck above that of her fellow governmentcritters is hilarious).

Making the above article more partisan propaganda? Not too surprising.

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